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]]> By: Acinreug http://www.thestoneroses.co.uk/2009/08/collectors-edition-first-impressions/comment-page-1#comment-199 Acinreug Tue, 13 Oct 2009 20:04:23 +0000 http://www.thestoneroses.co.uk/?p=856#comment-199 Just for fun: The box set version of FFF reversed sounds like a dub version of ES. As for the five Untitled backwards tracks: #1 is a version of Where Angels Play; #2, #3, and #5 are spacey versions of SBTD; and #4 is derived from IWBA. Untitled #5, by the way, sounds exactly like "I'm Without Shoes," so it probably shouldn't count as "previously unreleased." Just for fun: The box set version of FFF reversed sounds like a dub version of ES. As for the five Untitled backwards tracks: #1 is a version of Where Angels Play; #2, #3, and #5 are spacey versions of SBTD; and #4 is derived from IWBA. Untitled #5, by the way, sounds exactly like “I’m Without Shoes,” so it probably shouldn’t count as “previously unreleased.”

]]> By: TSR http://www.thestoneroses.co.uk/2009/08/collectors-edition-first-impressions/comment-page-1#comment-157 TSR Wed, 26 Aug 2009 07:42:05 +0000 http://www.thestoneroses.co.uk/?p=856#comment-157 Done a little investigation on the 'new' Full Fathom Five. The only version previously released which this may be was on the 7 inch single - this has been noted to be different from all the other versions (12inch, album compilations etc) so it's possibly this version. Unfortunately I don't have the 7 inch to check! If anyone does please have a listen and let us know. One things for sure the version on the 20th Anniversary edition is the best version I've heard. Unlike the more commonly heard standard straight reverse of Elephant Stone this has had work on it along the lines of some of the better reversed songs. Done a little investigation on the ‘new’ Full Fathom Five. The only version previously released which this may be was on the 7 inch single – this has been noted to be different from all the other versions (12inch, album compilations etc) so it’s possibly this version.

Unfortunately I don’t have the 7 inch to check! If anyone does please have a listen and let us know.

One things for sure the version on the 20th Anniversary edition is the best version I’ve heard. Unlike the more commonly heard standard straight reverse of Elephant Stone this has had work on it along the lines of some of the better reversed songs.

]]> By: Pots Tnod http://www.thestoneroses.co.uk/2009/08/collectors-edition-first-impressions/comment-page-1#comment-141 Pots Tnod Fri, 21 Aug 2009 08:20:40 +0000 http://www.thestoneroses.co.uk/?p=856#comment-141 Yeah, I noticed that about Full Fathom Five too and am intrigued as I'm sure the 12" version was the same as the version on The Complete Stone Roses (tho memory doesn't always serve me as well as I'd expect). The one on the collectors' edition is very dubby and effect laden - a work of beautiful random precision really. I initially wondered what Jon Savage meant in his superb and inciteful review in Mojo when he referred to the 'sweetened version' of Full Fathom Five being absent as I wasn't aware of any other versions. Would be eager to find out where it comes from - is it a newly uncovered or remixed version, either way it fits in more with the nature of Don't Stop and Guernica in that it is a backwards track with additional production elements added (as opposed to the normal version of FFF which is essentially just Elephant Stone backwards and unadorned). I think it's time we reappraised the backwards tracks - especially as Leckie has done a wonderful job of clarifing, uncondensing and uncluttering them - and saw them as delightful examples of post-krautrock Mancunian sound-art collages. In a sense, aural manifestations of Squire's accompanying artwork! Yeah, I noticed that about Full Fathom Five too and am intrigued as I’m sure the 12″ version was the same as the version on The Complete Stone Roses (tho memory doesn’t always serve me as well as I’d expect). The one on the collectors’ edition is very dubby and effect laden – a work of beautiful random precision really. I initially wondered what Jon Savage meant in his superb and inciteful review in Mojo when he referred to the ‘sweetened version’ of Full Fathom Five being absent as I wasn’t aware of any other versions. Would be eager to find out where it comes from – is it a newly uncovered or remixed version, either way it fits in more with the nature of Don’t Stop and Guernica in that it is a backwards track with additional production elements added (as opposed to the normal version of FFF which is essentially just Elephant Stone backwards and unadorned). I think it’s time we reappraised the backwards tracks – especially as Leckie has done a wonderful job of clarifing, uncondensing and uncluttering them – and saw them as delightful examples of post-krautrock Mancunian sound-art collages. In a sense, aural manifestations of Squire’s accompanying artwork!

]]> By: TSR http://www.thestoneroses.co.uk/2009/08/collectors-edition-first-impressions/comment-page-1#comment-138 TSR Wed, 19 Aug 2009 20:58:30 +0000 http://www.thestoneroses.co.uk/?p=856#comment-138 I havent noticed that - good spot. I'm guessing the CD is the full length version and usb 7inch. Odd that there different though. One thing I've noticed is the version of Full Fathom Five on the CD is different from previous versions. I've not listened to it extensively to work out whats going but it seems different from versions I've listened to in the past. At a guess it could've been some compilation version I've been listening to and this is the original 12inch. I'm not sure without a full investigation. If anyone can shed any light on these discrepancies and any other variations that would be great! I havent noticed that – good spot. I’m guessing the CD is the full length version and usb 7inch. Odd that there different though.

One thing I’ve noticed is the version of Full Fathom Five on the CD is different from previous versions.

I’ve not listened to it extensively to work out whats going but it seems different from versions I’ve listened to in the past. At a guess it could’ve been some compilation version I’ve been listening to and this is the original 12inch.

I’m not sure without a full investigation.

If anyone can shed any light on these discrepancies and any other variations that would be great!

]]> By: Arne http://www.thestoneroses.co.uk/2009/08/collectors-edition-first-impressions/comment-page-1#comment-137 Arne Wed, 19 Aug 2009 20:10:59 +0000 http://www.thestoneroses.co.uk/?p=856#comment-137 I just found out the Extras mp3 files on the USB stick aren't the same as the tracks found on the cd. The cd has a 4'50" version of Elephant Stone for instance, while the mp3 version is only 3'08". Anyone else notice this? I didn't get a chance to check the other tracks... I just found out the Extras mp3 files on the USB stick aren’t the same as the tracks found on the cd. The cd has a 4’50″ version of Elephant Stone for instance, while the mp3 version is only 3’08″. Anyone else notice this? I didn’t get a chance to check the other tracks…

]]> By: Chad http://www.thestoneroses.co.uk/2009/08/collectors-edition-first-impressions/comment-page-1#comment-129 Chad Fri, 14 Aug 2009 23:33:18 +0000 http://www.thestoneroses.co.uk/?p=856#comment-129 Nice review, kinda sums up my own thoughts on the album. Massively disappointing theres nothing from John in there. Really hope they don't reform as it'll more than likely ruin their godlike status in my mind, although if they do, i'll do anything for a ticket. Nice review, kinda sums up my own thoughts on the album. Massively disappointing theres nothing from John in there.
Really hope they don’t reform as it’ll more than likely ruin their godlike status in my mind, although if they do, i’ll do anything for a ticket.

]]> By: TSR http://www.thestoneroses.co.uk/2009/08/collectors-edition-first-impressions/comment-page-1#comment-126 TSR Thu, 13 Aug 2009 13:32:34 +0000 http://www.thestoneroses.co.uk/?p=856#comment-126 Well I can understand why he has no interest in a reunion but to not acknowledge his huge contribution to such a seminal album is disappointing. As you say it's a moment of celebration and reflection and I hope he at least takes great personal joy in what they achieved. Well I can understand why he has no interest in a reunion but to not acknowledge his huge contribution to such a seminal album is disappointing.

As you say it’s a moment of celebration and reflection and I hope he at least takes great personal joy in what they achieved.

]]> By: Northern Monkey http://www.thestoneroses.co.uk/2009/08/collectors-edition-first-impressions/comment-page-1#comment-125 Northern Monkey Thu, 13 Aug 2009 12:24:28 +0000 http://www.thestoneroses.co.uk/?p=856#comment-125 I can't believe John Squire didn't contribute to what is a "celebration" of the greatest album of a generation. Also can't understand why he continues to dismiss the rumours of a renunion. The timing for an announcement is perfect and a sell out arena tour would set them all up for life! I can’t believe John Squire didn’t contribute to what is a “celebration” of the greatest album of a generation. Also can’t understand why he continues to dismiss the rumours of a renunion. The timing for an announcement is perfect and a sell out arena tour would set them all up for life!

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